Dr. Johnson and some of his associates, using state of the art enhancement techniques, have taken a close up look at the photographs he took on July 8, 1947 .Following is :
1. A discussion of what the debris in these photos shows or doesn't show, links to these enhanced photos and related Web pages, and at the very end a summary of the opposing views of Kevin Randle and Dr. J. Bond Johnson.
2. What in my opinion is the MOST promising in all of this, is a discussion of the analysis of a memo General Ramey is holding in his hand in some of these photos. This could REALLY provide the answers everyone's been looking for.
Some of these photos, now housed at the University of Texas at Arlington, show debris spread out on the floor of an office at the headquarters of the 8th Army Air Force, Fort Worth, Texas, now known as Carswell AFB. A spirited debate has been going on for some time now regarding exactly what the debris in these photos actually is.
At the time, and AFTER Dr. Johnson took his photos, Brigadier General Roger Ramey, Commanding General of the 8th Army Air Force, held a press briefing and then went on WBAP radio making the same statement. He announced the debris in the office was nothing more than the remains of a Rawin Radar Reflector that had been carried aloft by a weather balloon, and crashed on a ranch outside of Roswell. This, he claimed, was the debris brought to him by Major Jesse Marcell, which earlier that day had been mistakenly reported as debris from a crashed "Flying Disc".
All of the noted Roswell researchers and authors over the years have presented evidence supporting the theory that acting on orders from Major General Clements McMullen in Washington, D. C., General Ramey had the real debris Marcel brought with him switched with the Rawin debris. This was a deliberate effort to get the press off the AF's back, and cover up the fact they had indeed recovered a crashed "Flying Disc" near Roswell. In other words the press release that initiated from the Roswell AAF got out before the Pentagon had a chance to react. Thus, this was damage control. At least this is one commonly held theory.
Dr. Bond Johnson and his project team, called RPIT (Roswell Photo Interpretation Team), believe their photo enhancements show some of the debris material is not part of the Rawin target material. In other words original crash debris, or at least SOMETHING else is mixed in. Therefore, they proclaim General Ramey is not guilty of having switched the debris material.
Researchers such as Kevin Randle and Stan Friedman reject this assertion. Further, photo experts such as Bruce Maccabee and Bob Shell do not agree the enhancements show what the RPIT members claim.
I have friends on both sides of this issue, so I am not going to express an opinion one way or the other. However, I will try to put this into perspective as I see it.
1. It is accepted as fact that Marcel brought with him on the flight from Roswell to Ft. Worth actual material from the Brazel debris field.
2. It is accepted as fact that Rawin Radar reflector material IS the predominant material in the photos.
3. All researchers and Bond Johnson's RPIT group agree it's mostly Rawin target.
4. Unless and until it can be proven beyond any doubt Non-Rawin material is mixed in the debris, in my opinion the entire debate is moot.
A. No one can prove absolutely the photos are of the very same material Marcel brought with him from Roswell.HERE IS WHAT IS CLAIMED TO BE IN THE MEMO SO FAR
B. Without this proof on when the Rawin material may or may not have been substituted for the real crash material, everything else is speculation, conjecture, and opinion.
C. It doesn't matter if Ramey ordered the switch on his own, or acted on orders of McMullen. What's important is what's shown in the photos.
The Crest in the Upper Left Hand corner of the message appears to be a cradle phone circa 1947 which could indicate that this was an official phone message. The time of receipt appears to be 1533 (which coincides with the RPIT time line precisely).
There is agreement among two local RPIT members (Ron Regehr and Debbie Stock) as to the following words:
AS THE ... 4HRS THE VICTIMS OF THE ... YOU FORWARDED TO THE ... AT FORT
WORTH, TEX. ... THE "CRASH" "STORY" .... FOR 0984 ACKNOWLEDGES ... EMERGENCY
POWERS ARE NEEDED SITE TWO SW MAGDALENA, NMEX ... SAFE TALK ... FOR MEANING OF
STORY AND MISSION ... WEATHER BALLOONS SENT ON THE ... AND LAND .... ROVER
CREWS ... (SIGNED) TEMPLEI have listed below the Web sites where you can view the enhancements and decide for yourself.
http://www.ufomind.com/people/j/johnsonj/ (about J. Bond johnson)
http://adm2.ph.man.ac.uk/ (Main Link to Debris and Memo)
http://adm2.ph.man.ac.uk/ftw-pics/index.htm (Ramey Office Photos)
http://adm2.ph.man.ac.uk/ftw-pics/new-1/index.htm (Memo)
http://adm2.ph.man.ac.uk/ftw-pics/new-1/rmysignl.htm (Memo)
http://adm2.ph.man.ac.uk/ftw-pics/download/index.htm (2.5 meg image scan a BIG file)
http://www.abduct.com/aaer/n52.htm (Symbols In Debris)
http://www.abduct.com/aaer/n53.htm (Symbols In Debris)
http://www.artbell.com/jbjohnson.html (Ramey Photos & Symbols)
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/8827/ramey.html (Memo)
http://www.abcfield.force9.co.uk/rpit/letter.html (Memo)I was going to paraphrase a number of discussions I've had with Dr. Johnson, Stan Friedman, and Kevin Randle in the last 6 months on this subject to give you a feel for the two opposing positions. However, in George Filer's FILER'S FILES #52-1998 dated 12/31/98 such a summary already exists and is copied below. I also recommend you visit George's www site at www.ufoinfo.com/filer/index.html
Dave
From Filer's Files......
ROSWELL PHOTO CONTROVERSY CONTINUES Did a space craft crash near Roswell in 1947? Photographs now being examined may show possible strange symbols and writing that seem unlikely to be engraved or embossed on Mogul balloon materials and a radar target like kite. Numerous books have been written claiming an alien craft crashed, but they are based mostly on forty or fifty year old memories and testimony. Intelligence officer Major Jessie Marcel had picked up some of the debris on a ranch near Roswell, showed it to his family and brought it to Roswell Air Base for examination. On July 8, Colonel Blanchard announced that the Army Air Force had captured a flying saucer. Major Marcel and the debris were flown to Fort Worth, Texas. James Bond Johnson was ordered by his newspaper the Fort Worth Star-Telegram to go to the base and photograph the debris. When he arrived at the Eighth Air Force Commander's office, he was met by Colonel Dubose the Chief of Staff. General Ramey was not there, but a still wrapped package of debris was on the floor. Colonel Dubose and Bond Johnson unwrapped the debris and spread it out to prepare for the photo shoot. Respected researchers have maintained that the real alien debris had been switched. In the book, The Roswell Incident, by Charles Berlitz and William Moore on Page 35 it states: "Actually," said Major Jesse Marcel, shown kneeling here amid what he described as some of the less spectacular pieces of wreckage, "this material may have looked like tinfoil and balsa wood, but the resemblance ended there." At first newsmen were permitted only as close to this material as was necessary to take the picture. Later, after torn-up pieces of an actual weather device had been substituted for the real wreckage on General Ramey's orders, press photographers were permitted to examine at will. Editor's Note: One problem we have is that Moore offered three different versions of the quotes attributed to Marcel, first in his book, then when he sent out his notes, and finally in his magazine, FOCUS. The controversy continues. KEVIN RANDLE writes: I think it is time to review the various tales told by J. Bond Johnson as he continues to tell us about the photographs he took in General Ramey's office. I think we now agree that he took six pictures rather than the two that he originally claimed. The evidence here is the quality of the pictures. They all look basically the same, have the same lighting and angles, the debris in the pictures, and RAMEY'S HAT and tie on the radiator. (Yes, examine the picture carefully and you'll see a brigadier general's star on the cap and not a major's leaf.) Now, Johnson is telling us that when he entered Ramey's office, Colonel DuBose was there and they unwrapped the debris while waiting for Ramey to arrive. What Johnson said to me originally was "So I drove directly to Carswell [though in 1947 it would have been the Fort Worth Army Air Field] and my recollections are now I went in and I opened my carrying case with my Graphic [camera] and I had just brought one holder with me with two pieces of the four by five film. I posed General Ramey with this debris..." Notice that he said nothing about unwrapping debris or anything else at this point. This is all based on what he told me during our first conversations in early 1989 and are, of course, on audio tape. Johnson reported in February 1998 that "I was met by COL DuBose and ushered into Ramey's office. Dubose (sic) went to find Ramey. I used that time to further unwrap and arrange the debris." When he was challenged on this point, that he was unwrapping the material in General Ramey's office, the story shifted subtly. Now we learn, "When he arrived at the Eighth Air Force Commander's office, he was met by Colonel Dubose (sic) the Chief of Staff. General Ramey was not there, but a still wrapped package of debris was on the floor. Colonel Dubose and Bond Johnson unwrapped the debris and spread it out to prepare for the photo shoot. Fifteen minutes later, General Ramey arrived clutching a piece of paper..." Once again Johnson raises the question of when Ramey told him it was a weather balloon. "No one seemed to know the exact identity of the debris." Not according to Johnson himself. He told me, in 1989 in two separate interviews that Ramey told him it was a weather balloon. To quote Johnson, once again, "I posed General Ramey with this debris. At that time I was briefed on the idea that it was not a flying disc as first reported, but in fact, was a weather balloon that had crashed." There was no misunderstanding here. That quote came in the middle of a long narration by Johnson. My original question had been just to have him relate, in detail, what happened. I was not questioning him closely so that he was confused and I did not put words in his mouth. Those were his own memories until he decided that he must have photographed the "real" stuff. Johnson posted, on the Internet, a "press release" in which he alleged that the University of Texas at Arlington held the photographs under high security, that they were arranging a special public showing of huge blowups of the photos and that the University and the Air Force had fought about the photos. According to the University, none of this is true either. When I ordered the blowups for analysis, I was told, without asking, that these tales were not true. There was no special security, there was no planned show, and there had been no fight with the Air Force. I could go on with other Johnson misrepresentations, but is there any real point. Johnson has changed his story significantly, he changes when facts suggest a version of his tale to be wrong, and he keeps inventing new details to thrill us all because he is the "Roswell Photographer." Isn't it time to stop reporting his tales. They only confuse the issue rather than clarify it. His transparent attempt to read the "Ramey message" with all sorts of references to "victims" and "wreckage" and a second site at "Magdalena" have not been duplicated by other researchers. The interpretations of the message leave a great deal to be desired. Thanks to Kevin Randle RESPONSE FROM JAMES BOND JOHNSON: There remain two unwrapped packages of the debris in clear view in the Ramey office photos, including in the Newton photo. Bob Durant and others continue to expose their ignorance re the remarkable findings of the RPIT (Roswell Photo Interpretation Team) volunteers. Instead of embarrassing himself with his ignorance by taking cheap pot shots at this very dedicated international group of photo analysts, they MIGHT have joined this distinguished group in their quest to finally solve the Riddle of Roswell. How can fully displayed symbols and other anomalous objects carefully unearthed from the Ramey office photos be dubbed "fantasies?" Again and again the RPIT has invited wider assistance and has NOT drawn any final conclusions as to the preliminary revelations of their remarkable findings! Durant --along with other UFOlogists -- have been invited repeatedly to roll up their sleeves and PARTICIPATE in this fascinating project. Second, Johnny Mann, when he was in Roswell with Major Jesse Marcel, Sr. showed Marcel the pictures in THE ROSWELL INCIDENT. Mann says that Marcel told him those pictures had been staged. There is NO dispute that the pictures taken of Major Marcel were staged. I staged them. It has been published repeatedly that I helped to unpack the "flying saucer" crash debris that Marcel couriered from Roswell to Fort Worth on orders of General Ramey. Then I "posed" -- arranged, displayed -- the junk in an attempt to make a meaningful photo record and then took the six famous pictures of Major Marcel, General Ramey and Colonel examining the debris. There is NO issue here. As far as I know, that is the only time that Marcel referred to those pictures. See website at: http://adm2.ph.man.ac.uk/ftw-pics/index.htm. Thanks to Colonel James Bond Johnson
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