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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 09:07:19 EST
From: peballen@eng.appl.ge.com (pat ballenger)
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> To all,
> 
> WHEW!!!
> 
> Richard was back on Art Bell tonight (the man is unbelievable ... all the
> incredible pressure and  excitement of this day and he stays up to come on
> Art's show till 4:30 am or so in DC and he's got a 9am meeting today ...
> sheesh ... what a guy .. sorry just had to say that)
> 
> Anyway he tells us first off NOT to worry about the coverage (*screw* *you
> know who* iow though he didn't say *that*) because there were 16 or so
> cameras up front besides his own 3 camera crew. MondoVision went live all
> over the world practically (but not here of course), there was German tv,
> and others that I have now forgot ... so not to worry 'boys and girls' as he
> would say the CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG ... bigtime. 

Pat B.

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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 11:52:49 -0500
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Subject: Hoagland NPR

From: Fred Muratori {fmm1@cornell.edu}
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Subject: Hoagland Event Covered on NPR
Date: 22 Mar 1996 14:03:27 GMT
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NPR's "All Things Considered" aired a brief "satirical" piece on the Hoagland news conference on yesterday's program. The correspondent basically voiced his own irritation and boredom at being forced to spend over two hours looking at blurry, inconclusive photos shown through a constanting jamming slide projector (yup, they can build temples on the moon but...). He took Hoagland to task for vaguely implying that the jamming was not accidental. It was a pretty useless, boring piece overall; basically a time killer. Since the reporter seemed to be so in need of excitement, and so desperate to let his bosses know how annoyed he was at having to cover Hoagland, one can assume he'll now be assigned to covering Bob Dole's campaign, where the thrills never cease.

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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 09:59:03 EST5EDT
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Subject: FW: Hoagland

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* From : Lofty, Martha T, 1:330/201.1@fidonet.org (22 Mar 96 09:05)
* To   : All
* Subj : FW: Hoagland
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Below is from a friend who is an abductee. Apparantly "some" media took notice.

mtl

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From: km
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 1996 9:20 PM
To: Lofty, Martha T
Subject: Hoagland

Hi martha,

i suppose that by now you've heard that richard Hoagland was doing a press conference thingy......(who hasn't!)

I was driving home tonight when the country radio station that i listen to came on and said something along the lines of "there are aliens on the moon". I was really weird, i felt relieved that someone had come out and said it publically. i also thought "now it has started". i feel like something has changed, like something has gone into hyperdrive or something. i can't explain it. i just feel like i should know WHAT has started and should be doing something about it. it is the strangest feeling and it's getting stronger and stronger over the last 5 or 6 hours. kindof like you know that company is arriving and you really have to clean and do the dishes and get the house tidy, except its more like we are going to have visitors and there is nothing to do to prepare, just to be ready when they get here.........ug. the suspense is killing me! i don't know if any of this is making sense or not. i just can't get this "now it has started" out of my head.

maybe i've finally gone certifiable! :)

cheers,

kathy .. :-> smile, it makes 'em wonder what you're up to.

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Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 04:40:13 -0800
From: mblw@psln.com (Linda Wymore)
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Subject: HOAGLAND coverage

Got a note from my cousin in Clatskanie, Oregon about coverage of the press conference. Little by little the word is getting out. There are holes in the dyke - just trickles so far...but it will take a lot of fingers in the holes to hold back the flood of information pretty soon (I hope).

Linda

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Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 22:18:05 -0800
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Linda,

Got your messages about the UFO's. There was a short story on our local ABC affiliate (maybe one minute) about it. They showed a couple of pictures and that was it. They did a telipole questioning whether people believed in UFO's or not and the one tally I saw, 64% of the callers said they believed there were. I did not see the final tally. That was all the coverage there was up here that I know of.

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Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 11:03:01 -0600 (CST)
From: iclea@bga.com (Megan Noel)
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Subject: Messages to New Agencies

In Austin, Texas, ABC aired a segment on the Mars Mission 10:00pm news. They showed the pictures, and quite frankly, they were fairly open about it. They did mention that they asked Mr. Hoagland for some photos, but could not get them. Unfortunately, at the end of the report, they had some no-body from a prestigous scientific org. say that the entire thing was totally ridiculous. And then they ended it by saying - true or not true ? We'll let you decide. (paraphrased). So, at least some coverage was given to this most incredible story.

Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:53:10 -0800
From: steve@linex.com (Steve Wingate)
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Subject: KOMO-TV News Story on Hoagland Press Conference (fwd)

(KOMO-TV is an ABC affiliate in Seattle. --SW)

ASTRONAUT: Roger, the EVA...

WALKER: The moon we all thought the Appollo astronauts landed on was dead, barren, nothing but a lot of desolate moon rock, right? Well, maybe that's what you thought. That's not what Richard Hoagland thinks. (Hoagland with slide in background)

HOAGLAND: There we're looking at some pretty amazing stuff...

WALKER: What he sees when he looks at a picture like this is not just some glob of moon dust, but a spire, a mile and a half high that was built by someone. Or this, what looks like nothing more than a smudge on film, when, enlarged many times...

HOAGLAND: ...because what I'm seeing is something that resembles a sharp-edged Grecian temple, complete with columns, and pointed top.

WALKER: What Hoagland sees are the remains of an air-tight glass dome that he believes may have once covered part of the moon millions of years ago, held together by massive cables.

HOAGLAND: There is this beautiful, looping, parallel arch of three strands, looking like three stranded pearls and right down here at the bottom there is sitting a humongous cable car... (Music from original Star Trek)

WALKER: If you're hearing this, right about now, wait a minute! There was a Boeing engineer on hand who said he believes in the dome theory, too.

UN-NAMED ENGINEER: A staging place or what have you, I don't know.

UN-NAMED REPORTER: A staging place for what?

UNNAMED ENGINEER: Well, perhaps a (sic) extraterrestrial civilization or even our own civilization at an prior epoch.

WALKER: Alex Cook, a student at Everett Community College in Washington, supplied some of the photos, which he enlarged from NASA pictures. He thinks he may see something.

COOK: Spires, or fingers of some kind of semi-transparent material. WALKER: But he's not necessarily a believer.

COOK: I just think its very intriguing.

WALKER: Intriguing, maybe, but, says the government, nothing but ,malarkey. NASA says its scientists have looked at the same pictures and they don't see any of the things Hoagland sees. Replies Hoagland: NASA knows more than its letting on and its time and its time to come clean. In Washington, DC, Tom Walker, KOMO News 4.

LOCAL TALKING HEAD: Hoagland's group alleges the government has long feared society would collapse if it learned of evidence of other beings on the moon. NASA denies it has suppressed any evidence like that.

Thanks to source: "Michael S. Greene" (mgreene@olympic.net)

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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 11:13:46 EST5EDT
From: chris.terraneau%f746.n202.z1@xbn.shore.net (chris terraneau)
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Reply-To: Chris Terraneau {iufo@xbn.shore.net}
Subject: Re: Hoagland press-releases

-=> Quoting Rich.boylan@24stex.com to All <=-

 > Also, several former NASA officials and others "in the know" will 
 > join 
 > Hoagland on Thursday. Hoagland said that as of today (Monday) 
 
 > Hey Rich Boylan... Is this finally it???

 Ri> I won't know if this is "IT" until I see the press conference.
 Ri> But as I write, it is eqivalent to 9 am Washington time and neither
 Ri> CSPAN nor CNN (or other major networks) are carrying the press
 Ri> conference of Hoagland et al.

 Ri> CSPAN hinted that they may tape
 Ri> it, meaning that they will analyze it to decide if it has enough "News
 Ri> content" to be worth delay-broadcasting at another time.

However, on Bell on Thursday, Hoagland announced that CNN had contacted him and wanted to do a detailed report. I suppose if they air it, it won't be on Headline News, but rather that more, in-depth CNN channel. As far as when it will be on, I would suggest listening to Art Bell to find out. I am going crazy here recording his all-night program, then trying to listen to it the next day.

Regards,

Chris

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Washington Post Article

Date: Sat, 23 Mar 96 16:00:48 EST
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Subject: Article: Washington Post Coverage of Hoagland "Event" (fwd)

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Subject: Article: Washington Post Coverage of Hoagland "Event"
Date: 23 Mar 1996 10:19:37 -0500
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Title: GREEN CHEESE AND BALONEY
Subtitle: 'Scientists' Say There's More on the Moon Than Meets the Eye
Type: Newspaper article
Publication: Washington Post
Date: March 22, 1996
Page: B1
Author: Richard Leiby

As news conferences go, this one was irresistible: Scientists to reveal "ancient artificial structures on moon." "Suppressed evidence" includes photos of Apollo astronauts walking amid apparent lunar ruins." Be there at 9 a.m., National Press Club, for the story of the century.

Reporters from at least 60 worldwide media organizations came to see proof of aliens. They scrutinized grainy blowups of old NASA photos and slides of impossibly fuzzy objects-including a blob that the assembled research team called "the castle." To be more precise: "an extra- ordinary, highly geometric, glittering glass object hanging more than nine miles above the surface of the moon," in the words of Richard Hoagland, the New Jersey author and noted pseudo-scientist who called the conference.

Hoagland, 50, is, basically, a kook. He's famous for popularizing the sighting of an alleged "human face" in the terrain of Mars, and he more recently claimed that the Bosnian peace talks were held in Dayton, Ohio, so world leaders could view the alien bodies housed in a hangar there.

But yesterday, the collective media didn't snort with laughter and walk out. Instead, journalists politely asked how these astounding lunar discoveries could have been covered up, and how long ago the ancient structures were built, and why the aliens chose the moon to build on. Later, reporters from CNN and the Associated Press, among others, called Apollo 12 astronaut Alan Bean to ask whether he'd ever stood on the moon near a massive tier of glass like ruins," as alleged in one Hoagland handout.

Meanwhile, people who'd read about the news conference on the Internet phoned newsrooms around the county, including The Washington Post, wondering how much about the alien civilization had been revealed in the "suppressed" NASA photos. Derek Jett, an ad agency director in Memphis, called to make sure The Post was covering the story, saying, "You wonder whether the guy's a hoax, but in the back of your mind you know the government covers up some things."

Perhaps this attitude isn't surprising, given the popularity of shows such as "The X-Files" and "Alien Autopsy," which flood the culture with fantastic notions of evil government bureaucrats harboring incredible secrets. People can't help hoping that aliens built castles on the moon, because the truth is too boring. We went to the moon. Found a bunch of rocks. End of story.

"I wish we had seen something like what he's describing," Bean said yesterday from Houston. "It would have been the most wonderful discovery in the history of humankind-and I can't imagine anyone, in my wildest dreams, not wanting to share that."

Hoagland, a science writer who served as a CBS News consultant during the Apollo missions, labeled his latest effort the Enterprise Mission, borrowing some credibility from "Star Trek." ("To boldly go where maybe someone has gone before," he said.) His researchers include, for the most part, fans of his book "The Monuments of Mars" - which NASA researchers and others, including Carl Sagan, have shown to be specious. ("There is a capacity for self-delusion," Sagan began explaining yesterday in his trademark cadence.)

One of Hoagland's investigators is Ken Johnston, an engineer who did contract work for NASA and examined photographs at the Lunar Receiving Lab in Houston. Johnston told reporters he believes that aliens once used the moon as an observation post to watch civilization evolve on Earth. He claims he was ordered to destroy negatives at the Johnson Space Center - but managed to save a set for posterity. (Evidently, the Conspiracy didn't quite do its job.)

"We're ready to tell the nation and the world," Johnston announced, "and let the evidence speak for itself."

NASA scientists pointed out that the photos - some made by lunar or- biters, others shot by astronauts - have been in the public domain for decades, and, interestingly, no one else has discovered the alleged alien-built crystalline palaces.

Hoagland said a "source" at the Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt leaked him a pristine negative from the Apollo 10 mission showing a 1 1/2 mile-high "shard" protruding from the lunar surface. "I cannot explain a feature like that on the face of the moon," said Ronald Nicks, a geologist on Hoagland's team.

"I see absolutely nothing like the so called shard," said Paul Lowman, a Goddard geologist and expert in orbital photography, after examining the frame cited at the news conference. "He's seeing some sort of a [photo] processing defect."

Lowman added: "Hoagland and people like him don't seem to realize that NASA has been looking for extraterrestrial life for 35 years.... We are the last agency on Earth that would hide such a thing - we'd all like to be the one on our way to Stockholm to get the Nobel Prize."

Tomorrow's news conference: Experts discuss archival footage revealing Jackie Gleason's face in the full moon.

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Press Democrat News Service

Date: Sat, 23 Mar 96 16:02:53 EST
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Subject: Newspaper Report on Hoagland Press Conference (fwd)

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Subject: Newspaper Report on Hoagland Press Conference
Date: 23 Mar 1996 04:08:18 GMT

From: The New York Times owned Santa Rosa (CA) PressDemocrat
Date: Friday, March 22, 1996:

Moon Beams

Washington- The man who souught to convincee the world there was a human-like face peering at us from Mars now is trying to show that someone, sometime, left "a glass dome" and other huge structures on the moon.

What's more, says Richard Hoagland, NASA knew it from photographs taken by Apollo astronauts and has been hiding the fact for nearly three decades.

"Our response is, it's not true," said NASA headquarters spokesman Brian Welch. "Everything we found, we made public.

Hoagland, who takes his claims of discovery on the lecture circuit, brought six engineers and scientists and a bunch of fuzzy photographs to a news conference to support his contention. He spoke of something called "hyperdimensional dynamics" at work on Mars, on the moon and in evidence at the ancient Stonehenge site in Great Britain.

Hoagland said recent reviews of pictures take on the lunar surface by the astronauts of Apollos 12 and 14 showed some of the structures.

"It's not true," said Alan Bean of Apollo 12. "No one, certainly not me and Pete Conrad, who I was with the whole time, saw anything that suggested ancient civilizations."

Hoagland described the objects that he said could be seen from official NASA photographs, most taken by Apollo astronauts, variously as "a Grecian Temple," looping cables, a large blob of glass and a 1 1/2-mile high formation he called a "shard".

Press Democrat News services

USA Today

Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 09:55:09 -0500 (EST)
From: pburrell@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Paul Burrell)
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Subject: (Fwd) USA Today on Hoagland, Chupacabras in Miami (fwd)

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Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 20:29:22 -0800
From: Paul Burrell {burrell@earthlink.net}
To: pburrell@freenet.columbus.oh.us
Subject: (Fwd) USA Today on Hoagland ....

>Comments: Authenticated sender is 
>From: colonel@wic.net (Col Steve Wilson USAF/RET)
>To: "(mailing List)" 
>Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:51:53 -0700
>Subject: (Fwd) USA Today on Hoagland, Chupacabras in Miami
>Reply-to: colonel@wic.net (SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL)
>Priority: normal
>
>From:          Jon
>Subject:       USA Today on Hoagland, Chupacabras in Miami
>
>    In case you didn't see it, here's the Hoagland story as it appeared in
>the March 22, 1996 issue of USA TODAY (page 3).
>
>     MOONSTRUCK: The Enterprise Mission, a group that believes there is a
>mile-high face on Mars, says a new analysis of scratches and blurs on NASA
>moon photographs are actually giant glass domes and other remains of an
>ancient civilization.  Richard Hoagland, who heads the group, said at a
>Washington news conference that NASA and the Apollo 12 and 14 astronauts
>who took the photos hid the information, fearing a global panic.
>
> "Absolutely, totally false," said Dwayne Brown, a NASA spokesman.
>
>     Sure, Dwayne, sure--just like Uncle Sam didn't lie about the Alamogordo
>nuclear explosion on July 16, 1945, palming it off to the wire services as "an 
>ammo dump explosion."
>----------------------------------------------------

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>    
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>

Paul

List of Images of Moon Anomalies by Hoagland

Date: Sun, 24 Mar 96 04:43:46 GMT
From: steve@linex.com (Steve Wingate)
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Subject: LIST OF IMAGES SHOWING ANOMALIES ON THE MOON (fwd)

(These images are available from NASA. Please contact NASA for further information. --Steve Wingate)

    IMAGE          PHENOMENA                     LOCATION
    
  72-H-835     Bridges Mare Crisium     Tranquillatus and Crater Proculu
  66-H-1612    Vehicle and manufactured objects  SE Mare Tranquillatatus
  72-H-1387    Machinery                Bullialdus - Lubinsky area
  66-H-1293    Rig in octagonal crater  Lunar farside - Lunar Orbiter 1
  72-H-1109    T-scoop ming central mountain in crater  E Mare Smythii
  71-H-781     Rig on crater terrace    Apollo 14 crew photo
  69-H-25      Rig making spiral cuts   Unnmamed farside crater
  72-H-837     Machinery raising dust on rim of King Crater
  67-H-1206    Domes and construction   Tycho
  72-H-834     Spraying crater and cannon shaped object   NW King crater
  72-H-836     Spraying crater in highlands   King Crater
  72-H-839     Various constructions    Farside King Crater
  67-H-201     Latin Cross near crater Crater Keplar near Oceanus Procellarum
  67-H-1135    rolling objects
  67-H-758     group of connected objects   Cratered upland basin LO 2
  67-H-510     object going uphill      Crater Sabine B
  67-H-327     Craft in anomalous crater   Oceanus Procellarum
  67-H-187     Obelisk with bar on top  Lunar Orbiter 3
  67-H-1179    Glyph (amazing)          Tyco Crater
  67-H-1651    Spray, connected constructions   Tycho and Northern Highlands
  69-H-8       Vehicle tread marks      Farside Apollo 8
  67-H-266     Diamond opening in anomalous crater   Surveyor 1 landing site

Updates from Mr. Dave!!!

Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:55:25 -0800
From: veterick@ix.netcom.com (DAVE VETTERICK )
Subject: Hoagland
To: rjoshua@sprintmail.com

Joshua, please post the following somewhere on the Hoagland pages.

Thanks

Dave

------------------------------

Unfortunately, I don't have anything to add as yet regarding the press conference beyond what is already posted to this site.

I would, however, like to compliment ISCNI's Ms. Rebecca Schatte for being the most fair and unbiased of all the many, many reports I saw.

GREAT NEWS I CAN REPORT is that Richard hoagland now has his own WWW page which will allow us to stay up with his work and efforts.

Hoagland Update & Next Press Conference

Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 07:57:26 -0500
From: bteague@ixc.net (Bill Teague)
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Subject: Hoagland update

Tues. 4/26 7am

Last night according to a conversation he had with him earlier in the day (Monday 4/25) Art Bell said that Richard Hoagland had a 4 hour meeting with Sara McClendon of the Washington Press Corp yesterday. Sara had been present at the Press Conference that Hoagland and Co. presented last Thursday at the National Press Club and had asked Richard immediately afterward to return this week and give her an extended private briefing of his info. He will return to the National Press Club this Thursday (I believe) on her invitation and urging to present his case to her inner circle of investigative journalists.

Bill

"Let's give them something to talk about" ... Bonnie Raitt

Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:00:12 EST5EDT
From: chris.terraneau%f746.n202.z1@xbn.shore.net (chris terraneau)
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Subject: Re: hoagland - bottom lin

 -=> Quoting Ron Mauer to All <=- RM> After we strip away all comments related to:

 RM> a. non-coverage by the politically correct press,
 RM> b. old news (e.g., crop circle photos, etc.)

 RM> was there anything presented by Hoagland or NASA scientists that can
 RM> be  considered *clear* evidence of ET activity on the moon?

 RM> what did Richard Hoagland present that was really new?

Hoagland cited a hostile media as the major reason "time ran out". Hoagland says he has two photos from a Soviet mission in 1965 which shows anomalies, but these are going to be far shots from an orbiting spacecraft. Hoagland's other "new" photos are those which allegedly show domes and structures and ladders, etc., reflecting in the Apollo astronaut's sun visors as they were taking pictures of each other.